TSC Talks TSC and Covid

TSC Talks talks TSC and Covid.  Guest host Daniel Price joined Jill Woodworth for a roundtable discussion with guests Rob Grandia, Emilie Peters, Heather Still,  Meghan Bittner, Joshua Stroup and Cathy Evanochko.  Check out the time stamps below to find the information you feel will be most helpful and check out the links at the end of this document.

Link to A.I. Transcription of the entire episode: https://otter.ai/s/QagpwwA0SPSIP-kaJs9Sng

Meghan shares that her doctor believes she had Covid very early on before we knew it was in the US.  (6:53)
Heather discusses what happened when her young son was admitted to the hospital for monitoring of seizures and how Covid complicated that.  (8:46)
Kathy discusses what it was like for her in Canada when Covid first hit.  (10:24)
Rob discusses what it was like to be on Capitol Hill in D.C. advocating for TSC support from politicians who obviously knew the seriousness of the virus (11:17)
Josh and Emily discuss how difficult it is to find a job right now as new college graduates (13:24)
Daniel discusses being furloughed from his job and how covid has impacted him.  (15:20)
Jill notes that her life has not changed that much due to Covid (17:02)
Meghan discusses facing a serious health challenge during the shutdown.  (18:28)
Rob discusses telehealth and its benefits and limitations.  (21:27)
Josh speaks about his fear of going to hospitals for routine care at this time.  (23:34)
Emily does not like telehealth visits and prefers seeing her doctors face to face in person. (24:32)
Heather and her children became sick with Covid.  (25:48)
Kathy speaks about the disruption of care due to Covid (26:33)
Meghan shares about being in Minnesota and having life and medical care disrupted due to the racial justice riots and protests.  (32:13)
Further discussion about telehealth, its benefits and its shortcomings (33:58)
The challenges of remote learning (37:23)
Discussion of stress, anxiety and mental health concerns during Covid. (47:01)
Stress and seizures (51:23)
TSC, stress and covid, we are used to adjusting (53:23)
Rob discusses the additional layer of stress caused by wildfires on the west coast (58:51)
Meghan discusses the riots and protests in Minneapolis (1:00:46)
Emily discusses the difficulty of being a new college graduate seeking a job (1:02:17)
Daniel, also on the west coast, talks about the widfires and the additional level of physical and mental stress they cause (1:05:34)
Kathy finds the blessings during Covid (1:06:25)
Rob misses the normalcy of going on dates with his wife (1:07:58)
Megan and Emilie talk gratitude (1:09:56)
Finishing up with one word that sums it up for everyone (1:14:07)

Rob Grandia Links:
https://www.tsalliance.org/individuals-families/adults/adult-regional-coordinators/ https://www.tsalliance.org/about-us/our-leadership/                   https://www.pe.com/2016/05/19/health-walk-helps-fight-disease-that-attacks-internal-organs/ https://www.facebook.com/rob.grandia.3

Daniel Price Links:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/daniel.price.1694
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pricendaniel/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-n-price-7270156a/              https://www.tsalliance.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/06-June-Adults-with-TSC-Newsletter.pdf     https://www.rareiscommunity.com/2019/11/27/navigating-a-forever-home-with-a-rare-disease-daniels-story/

Cathy Evanochko Links:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cathy.evanochko                            https://www.tscanada.ca/about-us/board-of-directors/                                   https://www.raredisorders.ca/about-cord/                                                         https://www.tscanada.ca/about-us/

Emilie Peters Links:
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/emilie.n.peters                                                Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emilie_peters_/                                          LinkedIn:  https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilie-peters-95ba421a3/                        https://prezi.com/p/pflgttwujtiq/what-is-tsc/

Heather Still Links:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/hstillwaters/                                                  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-still-478a9991/

Joshua Shoup Links:
https://www.timesonline.com/7b8a15ce-62c5-11e7-8fcb-ffa59dd8ad56.html        Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/joshua.shoup.3                                                LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshua-shoup-88777a1aa/

Meghan Bittner Links:

Thanks for tuning in! We hope to produce another “TSC and COVID Convo” in early January. If you are interested in participating, contact TSC Talks on any of our social media channels or click here.

TSC Talks Guest Brielle Izabelle

TSC Talks guest Brielle Izabelle joined myself and co-host, Brooke Alisha on the podcast to discuss her lived experience as a young adult living with Tuberous Sclerosis Complex. Brielle is from New Jersey, is a college student at Fairleigh Dickinson and just launched a YouTube channel. This is the description she includes on her YouTube channel, linked below: “hey everyone! My names Brielle Isabelle and I would love if you could join the bbsquad! Here I hope to talk about my disease Tuberous Sclerosis and raise awareness! I also want to make my channel super personal with Q&A’s, make up videos , pranks and more. CATCH UP ON SOME VIDEOS LIKE COMMENT AND MOST IMPORTANTLY SUBSCRIBE AND SHARE!”

My co-host for this episode was Brooke Alisha, Brooke is our TSC Talks YouTube Vlogger and is an adult and parent living with TSC. She is also a TSC Advocate, Adult Regional Coordinator for Adult Support Region 5 and LeVel Promoter. She has quite a story of challenges and hurdles, traumatic events, and heartache but also MUCH resilience, inner fortitude, a heart of love and hope and I was grateful to have her jump right in and contribute to this interview with her own insights and understanding of TSC related challenges and add another valuable perspective to our discussion.

As a parent of three offspring with TSC who has been through quite a sampling of the TSC experience in terms of encountering ranges of manifestations, treatments, surgeries, medications, and interfacing with systems of care, I am always learning what I don’t know about another’s personal experience.  I am grateful to gain yet another glimpse of how others navigate and come through their own personal crises and come to understand and put in place a framework for moving forward and accepting the diagnosis without letting it define them. This was yet one more “schooling” I received on the many colors and faces of this complicated diagnosis.

I am sharing some pertinent quotes that help illustrate the content we discussed. Brielle discussed her greatest challenges growing up with a TSC diagnosis, those being educational and mental health challenges. “You know, I’ve dealt with school situations, like bullying because of how intense it really was for me, I did struggle. But the school system that I was involved in, they were amazing. And I was able to be super successful in school. I went to my dream college, and education is the biggest way that this has impacted me. And now as an adult, or young adult, I think that it really affected me with my mental health, which is something that I had no idea it would. I think that since my whole life has been relatively stable, I didn’t realize that okay, you know, there’s other things that aren’t, which has been my mental health, anxiety and depression and things like that. So, I think my whole life, it’s really just been my education. But now that I’m an adult, and I’m more in charge of my education, it’s definitely my mental health and mental health awareness. So that’s the biggest thing and it’s affected me a lot to be honest with you”

Brooke also shared her perspective on what Brielle mentions, also tying in TAND, which stands for Tuberous Sclerosis Complex Associated Neuropsychiatric Disorders; “I know like 80% of people deal with a mental illness and you know, sometimes you deal with it worse at different ages. I honestly didn’t really pay attention to it when I was younger, because I didn’t know, but watching my daughter struggle with the bullying and the IEP s and the learning and the therapists and all that stuff. It is very traumatic for someone to go through at any level. You talk very well, and you are very educated. Whoever has worked with you has done an amazing job. And I think that’s incredible growth for you”

Brielle underwent brain surgery at age 8 and states, “So I think that brain surgery was one of those things where I was sort of like, this is happening, you know, what is going to happen after this? How am I going to be impacted, I wasn’t educated. All I knew was that, you know, one of my tumors in my brain needed to come out and it needed to come out as soon as possible. So, I think that being who I am today, as well, I could say that if I didn’t have brain surgery, I wouldn’t know who I was, either. Because that was like my, my greatest achievement, you know, to survive something so traumatic like that. A lot of people don’t come out of that. So I’m so blessed. And I think that going through that and now being so healthy today, is something that is just amazing, something that I had to do something that I had to face, I couldn’t go around it, I can wait a year for it to be done”

Brooke added, “I’m really thankful you talked about the brain surgery. My daughter had it when she was three, but like, that’s what she lives off of…” this happened to me.” I always tell her it does not define you. But it is so hard to get that out of their head when they go through so much stuff and like you said, you blocked things out.” I also would acknowledge how important it is to not let these major medical events that are outside of one’s control define, but give one a sense of passion and purpose having gone through something most people never experience, living through it, and owning the courage and bravery it takes to reorient and not let memory of these traumatic events hold one hostage.

Brooke elaborates on her own challenges with the mental health aspects of TSC, “Nobody understood my mental illness, you know, they were supportive and they kept me going, but until I got older and really dealt with it, I was in my home and wouldn’t leave, and it was a really bad place.   I was alone, it was devastating to my life. So to see you at 21, just, you know, I know that there still rough days, but you’re glowing, you’re doing incredible. And I am so thankful that you’re reaching out to these other girls. I know that’s been a huge support for my daughter, having her camp friends that all had TSC to talk to because you do get very lonely, nobody understands you, they don’t even know what to say to you. So they say nothing and then you’re left in a hole, you know. So I’m really thankful to hear your story and to hear you rise up from all this. I think it’s great. I know there’s going to be tough days, like you said, there’s no cure, but you have to like rise above that and you’re doing very well. You’re doing a really good job.”

I would echo that statement and will wrap up with this quote from Brielle on how she came to use journaling and ultimately vlogging to help her process her experiences and cope, “Something that I was actually very opposed to doing because I was so in denial that it would help me is journaling. I had an empty journal in my room that my dad gave me, and I put it all the way in the back of the drawer. And I refused to even write my name. I didn’t even want to draw in it. I did not want to even think about putting my feelings down. And one day I was feeling so terrible. And I said, I just want to get this out, even if this is the first and last time that I write in it, and ever since that day, I have not stopped writing in it every single night. Just like Brooke said, I will write, “you got this now, tomorrow’s gonna be better.” You know, ask yourself the question, like, let me know how tomorrow goes and then tomorrow I’ll write down today.  Especially now that I can’t see my therapist, I need a means of releasing how I’ve been feeling and I actually made a video about anxiety and depression as well. Writing in the journal and giving yourself motivational words, you know, it doesn’t have to be something cliche or something that someone else told you. It’s something that is individualized to you. So yeah, I write like 15 pages written ..or I’ll write like three pages a day of just thoughts and thoughts. And sometimes my hand will cramp up and I’ll say, wow, you know, today was a rough day. Just go for something. Because sometimes it’s just, very hard”

Both of these two women are powerful examples of coping with some off the beaten path challenges that few will encounter in their lifetimes and both have chosen to accept the fact that they have this condition, are not letting it define them but remain grateful for being able to be here now and find joy, meaning despite the daily roller coaster of circumstance. Tools mentioned for coping are journaling, vlogging, connecting with others that can relate and a lot of self-love, self-compassion and reminders on the mirror of just how awesome they are. Because it is so true. I was inspired and moved listening to both of these women and am glad to share this episode with my own daughters, as well as many others within and without the TSC community, who have dealt with and are dealing with similar issues related to self-esteem, mental health, and staying positive in this crazy world we live in.

This episode is dedicated to my friend Paul Collins who passed away recently. Paul was a unique and inspirational individual I met in the local 12 step program when I had hit a personal bottom dealing with addiction and mental health stressors that led to a serious psychotic break. Paul inspired me to live the wisdom of the saying, “you’re only as sick as your secrets” which in part inspired the creation and evolution of this podcast. Thanks for listening!

Brielle’s links:

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfFMGjj9KrOFG-k1d-MKXjQ

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brielle.izabelle

 

Brooke’s links:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_brookealisha_/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brookey21

Twitter: @BrookeAlisha

Adult Regional Coordinator-FB group: https://www.facebook.com/TsAllianceOfOhio/

TS Alliance Regional Coordinators: https://www.tsalliance.org/individuals-families/adults/adult-regional-coordinators/

Brook’s hair services: https://www.facebook.com/brookesbliss13hair/

https://www.facebook.com/thecolourpalettesalon/

Thrive/Le-Vel: https://brooke2330.le-vel.com/

All of our podcasts can be found at https://tsctalks.com/podcast/

TSC Talks The State of Relationships

TSC Talks The State of Relationships and Special Needs

A frank discussion with John D. Brigham, partner/boyfriend of the host of TSC Talks, Jill Woodworth on his experience moving in with our family dealing with extreme circumstances TSC related, trauma-related. How we made it work and how we’re coping now. We will cover TAND, behavior management issues, relationship challenges, and strategies, cannabinoid medicine and coping. All are welcome, participation encouraged. JD Brigham is from way up north in VT, has a background in healthcare IT, has a son from a previous relationship, a long time cannabis enthusiast and one of the most incredible humans I know.

All of our podcasts can be found at https://tsctalks.com/podcast/

 

TSC Talks Guest Brooke Alisha

TSC TALKS GUEST BROOKE ALISHA

I had the extreme honor of interviewing Brooke Alisha, TSC Advocate, Parent, Adult living with TSC, Adult Regional Coordinator for Adult Support Region 5, LeVel Promoter. She has quite a story of challenges and hurdles, traumatic events, and heartache but also MUCH resilience, inner fortitude, a heart of love and hope.

Diagnosed with Tuberous Sclerosis Complex (TSC is a condition that causes benign tumors to grow in different organs of the body) at the age of 18, Brooke gives us a picture, “I was very active. I was a cheerleader. I was in a precision ice skating team. I was very active in my church. I was in a traveling singing group. We had so many things. So for me, my life was.. always on the go and involved in something, a part of something and suddenly, I was on Darvocet and it literally brought me to my knees. I was in the middle of hair school. I had just started after I graduated. And I missed three months. I had to take medical leave because I couldn’t get up. I was afraid to hurt my kidneys and the stent and that whole thing and then on top of it being on that medication. That was the start of everything really for me.”

She talks of the utter devastation that followed post-diagnosis, “you looked at Google, you know, or Web MD or something. And it was like, awful. And I’m like, how can my life go from this to this? How am I supposed to (go on) and that it just made it worse”?

After moving in with her boyfriend and withdrawing, there was more challenging news, “And so when I went to go see about the cysts on my ovaries, I actually found out I was two months pregnant with my daughter. So I did have this on my ovaries, but they’re like, um, you’re pregnant, and we’re going to put you on Prozac because we don’t know if you’ll handle the baby or if you’ll keep it or anything”

To make things more challenging, she now had doctors weighing in, “She told me she advised an abortion and I wasn’t okay with that. It wasn’t how I grew up personally. And I thought, there’s a reason I’m having her. So, I’m going to just have her and I’m going to get through it. And if I lose her, then it’s meant to be I had to live with myself personally.”

Her baby daughter started having infantile spasms at 4 months and was diagnosed with TSC. She gives us a look at the inner experience of these circumstances and more challenges, “I guess I was so young, you know, I was scared to death of what was to come and she had just got diagnosed with Tuberous sclerosis complex, she has the seizures and they started to get more intense. And they were up to about 10 to 12 times a day, we started to have to digest that. Then I found out I was pregnant with my son, so it was a lot.”

Listening to Brooke and reflecting on my own experience, “I can relate to some of that, you know, I was getting pregnant and finding out at while I had other kids with TSC, and you know, I think back on those times that I don’t remember the details. It’s like talking to you, I just kind of remembered that craziness. You know, it was always like kind of living through at the moment and getting through the day and, you know, putting out brush fires one thing after the other, so I don’t know if it was like that for you, but I didn’t have a lot of like time to really reflect on what was happening and how I was. It was just so much action-reaction.”

Brooke shares more of her experience with her daughter, “she had brain surgery, a lot of people know the intensity of that, it’s a six-month thing. To get tested and all of this stuff done and, you know, it kind of all becomes a blur and then you spend about a month in the hospital because they’ve got to do two surgeries. And we did get social security disability income for that month that I was off, but it was exhausting. I had a son at home. She wasn’t going to the bathroom by herself. They told me about the social regression, they removed her right frontal lobe of the brain, all the executive decision making”

She also discusses waking up to an understanding of TAND, Tuberous Sclerosis Associated Neuropsychiatric Condition, both personally and with her daughter. 80-90% of individuals with a diagnosis of TSC will have some degree of TAND, manifesting in a myriad of different ways, encompassing the entire mental health diagnostic umbrella!

“And you just fix it and you figure it out. But you know, for the longest time, everything would defeat me. Because, you know, for me, 80% of people with TSC have a mental illness, TAND is something I didn’t even know what it was, and I feel like it’s not talked about enough. It’s not expressed enough. It’s not shown to families like okay your child might have TSC but look out for TAND, they need to be prewarned for this because you have no idea it will come hit you like a bus.”

Here’s an excruciating narrative outlining a TAND incident, “It seems like with these medications, so for her anti-psychotics make her psychotic. And we were like afraid to drive home. We were hoping a cop saw us and said let me take her from you. I have never been that mom that wishes anything on my children ever, ever ever in my life. I know I talked previously about not dreaming of being that mother or that Betty Crocker person, but I definitely am a person that when I have something, I go all out and I go all in. If I’m going to take care of something, I’m going to take care of it the way it needs to be taken care of. How do you take care of that? I didn’t know how to take care of that situation. That moment. Everybody’s lives are in danger. My son was being choked from the back. It was very traumatic.”

So clearly, Brooke is a survivor, with resilience like no other. She narrates example after example of circumstances that are unimaginable and yet she continues to rise.

“And you know, for the longest time I lived as that victim like …victim, victim victim and I decided I wasn’t going to live there anymore. And once you decide that you must be at a really big place where you’re like, you know, I’m ready. Because you’re going to get tested and you’re going to get tried, and it’s going to try to break you, but you have to just rise up really. But you have to be at that place, and I can’t tell you how to get there other than feeding your mind with happy things and good things. I started working out. So I started to try to do things that would help my mental health I went seek counseling. I just I started to really like being a hairstylist too, you’re also a therapist. So, you need to have an out. I needed a healthy out for sure.”

Brooke uses premium nutrition, continues to consult with her doctors, and this system has worked for her, Thrive, “a premium lifestyle plan to help individuals experience and reach peak physical and mental levels” and has great results. She continues to promote this product as a side business to supplement her work as a hairstylist/beautician and focuses on helping people feel beautiful inside and out. Having the opportunity to give her clients a little bit more in terms of offering a product she has had success with and believes in has been a wonderful way of infusing her work with her own lived experience and positive energy.

This episode is chock full of inspiration and hope despite multiple and ongoing challenges. I’ll leave you with this final quote, and encourage you to listen and share this incredible testimony to the power of the human spirit, faith and deep passion and love for her family, friends, committed to doing her best to push the needle of knowledge, education, and support for those living with TSC forward daily!

“I mean, there’s been lots of like little miracles, you know, like as you go on, like, Oh, she can read now. And for me, my tumors went from four and a half centimeters down to nothing. So yes, so that’s been amazing, but just the miracle of being 36 now and being told at 30 I’d be in a wheelchair like that’s a miracle. And when people see me and do that stuff, I want them to know that it’s never too late. You still have a life to live!” Bravo Brooke!

Brooke’s links:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_brookealisha_/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brookey21
Twitter: @BrookeAlisha
Adult Regional Coordinator-FB group: https://www.facebook.com/TsAllianceOfOhio/
TS Alliance Regional Coordinators: https://www.tsalliance.org/individuals-families/adults/adult-regional-coordinators/
Brook’s hair services: https://www.facebook.com/brookesbliss13hair/
https://www.facebook.com/thecolourpalettesalon/
Thrive/Le-Vel: https://brooke2330.le-vel.com/

TSC Talks Guest Brooke Alisha

Thank you for listening.  All of our podcasts can be found at www.tsctalks.com/podcast/