Category: trauma

TSC Talks Guest Sherri Tutkus

TSC Talks guest Sherri Tutkus is the founder and CEO of GreenNurse Group, Nursing Director at Irie Bliss Wellness and host of GreenNurse on the Go Radio Show. Sherri is a cannabis nurse, patient and advocate. She earned her Bachelors in Science and Nursing from Boston College. She is highly skilled Registered Nurse with 30 years’ practical experience in various departments within the hospital and home setting. She is utilizing her expert nursing skills as a medical center specialist, clinical nurse liaison and educator to bridge the gap between patients and the cannabis community. Sherri has been educating and implementing holistic integrative healing modalities within her practice for over 20 years. She educates on the endocannabinoid system and the safe utilization of cannabis at dispensaries, hospitals, clinics, patients homes and she regularly does pop up events, seminars and expos. Sherri is an international speaker and she has contributed to the writing of the first cannabis nursing textbook with her cannabis nurse colleagues that will be available in nursing schools across the country. Sherri is a member of the American Cannabis Nurses Association and founding member of The Cannabis Nurses Network and was nominated as one of two nurses for “Health Professional of the Year” for the 2020 New England Cannabis Convention. Sherri brings passion and purpose to her work teaching bio-psycho-social-spiritual healing using cannabis as a tool.

In this episode, Sherri shares from the annals of intensely personal experience detailing how her entire life went from one of a busy full time nurse, working in hospitals in Boston, single mother of three to becoming completely bedridden, dependent on others for care. She states,

“I’m going to be a little bit transparent today. I think it’ll be really helpful to talk from my own personal perspective in working with cannabinoid therapeutics and mental health in regards to my own mental health. So before I got sick in 2012 I had a history of migraines and ADHD-attention deficit disorder. Both of those were managed very well with medications, working full time as a nurse in the big teaching hospitals in Boston, three kids. I was highly functioning. When I took a hit from eating a bacteria while I was working I ended up in the intensive care unit, with a mega colon, an infectious disease, and it was really bad. So I got sick in 2012, took a hit to my gut. I went from high functioning to not functioning at all”

From here Sherri lays out the journey back and how a fellow nurse at a particularly low point after she’d been put on 16 pharmaceuticals and was “circling the drain of despair”, encouraged her to try cannabis as medicine.

“I was on the other side of the bed, like in a really big bad way, all of a sudden I’m the patient and having to advocate for myself. So not only was it the physical issues that I had, but I also had to deal with the system, the system that I worked in, how is that going to affect my mental health and how are they going to take care of me? The trauma that I experienced from this illness is so overwhelming high functioning to not functioning, home- bed bound in the hospital- couldn’t take care of my kids -could barely eat. I’m just gonna say it like it is explosive diarrhea, and nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, pooping your pants in public. So you can see how literally I can talk about anything. From running around the block naked to talking about poop and stuff that comes out your bum. I was so mortified, horrified that I had this gastrointestinal illness that was debilitating, complete loss of control, it was horrible. And then the issues with eating and being able to take in food. So that spiraled into, mental health issues, the developing anxiety and the depression. And over time, I wasn’t getting better. I had agoraphobia, I was afraid to leave.”

And I’m going to tell you too, and this is the part of trauma that I’m really trying to help patients with now, when I’m working with them because I’ve been there. You know, I’ve been there. I call it medical trauma. And Pharmaceutical trauma.

It was cannabinoid therapeutics that came into my life that really made the significant impactful change, that allowed everything that wasn’t working to start working again and actually allowed me to start processing information from a different place because I was pulled out of the story of the sickness, the story or the trajectory of sickness. an illness. You know, it was the cannabinoids that actually opened the door that allowed everything that wasn’t working to start working again.”

I was utilizing all of the other tools that existed. The traditional system, the holistic system, the functional integrative system, acupuncture, chiropractor, essential oils, homeopathy, you name it, and none of it worked. Why? Because my endocannabinoid system was completely 100% deficient. I was not making enough of my own internal endogenous cannabinoids to keep my system regulated including my brain”

“And so what it took was it was one of my nursing colleagues who had just retired. She was one of my patients because I do energy healing work. I do Reiki and Reconnective Healing and she was one of my clients from energy healing. She had been trying to get in touch with me and she had just turned 70 and I kept blowing her off. So she came to my house with a big giant, big fat joint. And she walked into my bedroom and I looked at her and I go, are you kidding me? I mean, is this a joke? Seriously, you’re bringing me weed? Like, how is this gonna help me?”

There’s much more within this episode as Sherri goes into a lot of detail on various aspects of cannabis as medicine and how it works to restore homeostasis, what this means for so many conceivably impossible to treat conditions, how this has profound implications, for ushering in a new paradigm of modern medicine, bridging the gaps between traditional and alternative medicine with results, research and centuries of “anecdotal experience” evidencing profound efficacy and facilitating personal autonomy and decreased dependence on a broken healthcare system.

For Sherri, these brutal series of experiences were the launching pad for what is now her business, Green Nurse Group and has led to her work as Medical Director of Irie Bliss Wellness. She has the opportunity to help others on their journey with cannabis. She discusses the personal stigma she had to overcome as well as challenges within her own family who were not initially supportive of her foray into the cannabis industry among other potential roadblocks so many of us experience as we advocate for what we know to be true about cannabis. It is a life saving plant that has the power to transform one’s entire state of being.

Sherri and Green Nurse Group as well as many other Cannabis Nurses, Doctors who are slowly starting to embrace cannabis and other professionals with whom Sherri inspires sit at the crossroads of this exciting yet also frustrating time in traditional medicine as the systems we have depended on for so long to help keep us alive and having quality of life are not leading to overall improved quality of life for more than not.

One final quote from Sherri and then be sure to check out her links: “I honestly see this (cannabis as medicine) being integrated into mainstream medicine, but it’s going to happen in the community first. So in other words, as healthcare professionals, a lot of cannabis nurses, including myself, the traditional healthcare system has failed us in multiple ways. Not only were surgeries denied, medications were denied. I had to fight for my for surgical procedures, the mental health system-completely broken. Bottom line is that a lot of systems that we medical professionals, especially cannabis nurses have come from, we’ve come from broken systems, and so we want to make it better. And how do we make it better? We start in our communities by educating and then there’s going to be a critical mass eventually. It’s going to happen and I’ve already seen it …now I’m getting phone calls from more doctors asking, “Hey, what’s the green nurse?” ”

Sherri’s Links:

Green Nurse Group: https://www.greennursegroup.com/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GreenNurseSherri
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sherri_tutkus/,

https://www.instagram.com/greennursegroup/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/Green_Nurses
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sherri-tutkus-rn-bsn-912b7776/
Recent Articel: https://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2019/10/10/the-system-is-a-big-fat-failure-access-to-cannabis.html
Recent podcast appearance: http://www.theaddictionarypodcast.com/e/part-viii-of-cannachronicles-with-sherri-tutkus/

Sherri’s previous podcast and all of our podcasts can be found at https://tsctalks.com/podcast/

TSC Talks Guest Marc D. Lewis, PhD

TSC Talks guest Marc D. Lewis, PhD, “If we are to understand anything so complex and troubling as addiction, we need to gaze directly at the point where experience and biology meet. Because that’s the bottleneck, the linchpin, where human affairs are cast and crystallized. That’s where the brain shapes our lives and our lives shape the brain”

I had the honor and pleasure of interviewing Marc. D. Lewis on TSC Talks to discuss his life and work with the focus of the conversation on how he developed his understanding of addiction, and how he debunked the more traditional theory that addiction is indeed a disease. Marc is a neuroscientist, recently retired full professor of developmental psychology, at the University of Toronto from 1989 to 2010, and at Radboud University in the Netherlands from 2010 to 2016. He is the author or co-author of over 50 journal publications in psychology, cognitive science, and neuroscience, editor of an academic book on developmental psychology, and co-author of a book for parents. More recently he has written two books on the science and experience of addiction.

I heard Marc on a podcast several years ago after reading his blog, https://memoirsofanaddictedbrain.com. I was a few years into recovery from substance abuse addiction and struggling with many of the traditional modes of treatment. As a parent of children with some extra challenges case managing their TSC related care post-divorce, I was buoyed when I heard Marc discussing his 2nd book, The Biology of Desire, Why Addiction is Not a Disease (2015), which claims “the scientific facts don’t support the disease model of addiction. Rather, addiction, like romantic love and other emotionally loaded habits, develops through deep learning and limited alternatives. Combining scientific views with intimate biographies of addicts who recovered, the book also shows how addiction can be overcome, through self-directed change in one’s goals and perspectives.”

Having felt more validated in my own personal experience knowing that there were multiple factors personally at play that led to my own demise, I went and started reading more of his blog and research. Viewing myself as victim of a disease while at the same time having to maintain a somewhat subservient stance to wrangle the services necessary to help our family recover from years of ongoing traumas, was almost too much to bear. I simply could not accept the idea that I had a disease and as I chose to navigate away from that model of understanding, including delving into cannabinoid medicine, I was finally able to intimately integrate past, present and future in a way that I could truly climb out of many self-limiting beliefs reinforced by this notion. Clinging to the disease model of addiction was limiting and I have to say, Marc’s work has made a tangible impact on my own and so many others who have had less than typical experiences for which the confines of traditional recovery methods led to deeper despair and frustration. I’m including a bit more information from Marc’s bio along with some quotes that highlight might be helpful and lead you to download and/or at least listen to this fabulous chat.

Beginning during his undergraduate years in Berkeley, California, Marc experimented with a large variety of drugs, eventually becoming addicted to opiates. He moved to Toronto in 1976 and began to study psychology at the University of Toronto, but at the same time encountered serious personal and legal troubles resulting from his addiction. After quitting drugs at age 30, he continued his graduate education in developmental psychology. He received a Ph.D. and license to practice psychology in 1989, and he was appointed to the position of assistant professor the same year.

Around 2006, Marc’s research led him back to addiction, this time as a neuroscientist studying the brain changes that accompany addiction and recovery. His 2011 book, Memoirs of an Addicted Brain, blends his life story with a user-friendly account of how drugs (from LSD and alcohol to speed and heroin) affect the brain and how alterations in brain function help explain addiction.
His more recent book is The Biology of Desire: Why Addiction is Not a Disease (2015), and it has stirred controversy among people with addictions, their families, addiction researchers, and treatment providers.”

“The fact is that we in the West embrace the logic of pigeonholing problems, giving them unique names and finding technical solutions-the more targeted the better-for alleviating them. That is, to a T, the logic of Western medicine.”

We also discussed the impact of social distancing and quarantine measures on those that might be struggling with addiction during this global pandemic. Please note Marc’s links to social media as well as multiple articles, videos that might be helpful and illuminating for anyone currently struggling.

“What often goes together with addiction is a kind of narrowing of the social world, you get your needs for soothing and satisfaction or pleasure from a substance. You do not need to connect as much. So, the social world kind of shrinks around you. And before long, you kind of lose the opportunity, you lose the availability of other people, you lose friends, you lose family, you kind of, you know, you kind of bury yourself in a little hole in the ground, where you have your substance and you have maybe a couple of other people around you that also are involved in substances That’s it. The Coronavirus also is pushing us to burrow into a shrinking environment. We are sitting there at home by ourselves. And people are just losing even more the opportunity to connect outside of themselves, to extend their, their social web and to extend their possible the availability of getting your needs met by other people and other activities. So that in itself, I think is just the built-in hardship of this lock-down phase that we’re in.”

If you or a loved one or anyone in your circles is feeling at risk and struggling with mental health issues, please don’t hesitate to call National Suicide Prevention Lifeline https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/ 1-800-273-8255.

Marc’s links are as follows:

Website: https://memoirsofanaddictedbrain.com

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQvHfB1Kg4zStk5YwMYWH9Q Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_David_Lewis

ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Marc_Lewis3

The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2015/aug/30/marc-lewis-the-neuroscientist-who-believes-addiction-is-not-a-disease
Videos that are awesome! https://youtu.be/aOSD9rTVuWc

Addiction and Trust: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3p_LuTM73k

With Dalai Lama: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZgx-6GOBAs
Order His Books!:
https://www.memoirsofanaddictedbrain.com/buy-biology-of-desire/
https://www.memoirsofanaddictedbrain.com/buy-it/

TSC Talks thanks Marc D. Lewis, PhD for sharing his wisdom with us.  All of our podcasts can be found at https://tsctalks.com/podcast/

TSC Talks guest Liz Minda and Mike Robinson Pt 2

TSC Talks guest Liz Minda and Mike Robinson Part 1

In this episode of TSC Talks, I spoke to Liz Minda, RN and Mike Robinson, former TSC Talks guest, drops in for the second half of our conversation. Liz has three children, one of whom has significant special needs and issues related to epileptic seizures. Liz strongly believes her daughter’s issues are pharma injuries and we discuss that and the treatment protocol. Liz had her children later in life; her son was born when she was 48 and her twin daughters were born when she was 50. She had normal uneventful pregnancies and her children were all born healthy. All was well until, at 18 months old, one of her daughters developed a fever after her MMR/DPT vaccine. That was when she had her first seizure.

Liz’s daughter had no further seizures until she was 4. When the seizures came back, they were severe grand mal status epilepticus seizures. Liz hesitated to medicate her daughter because as an RN, she was aware of the difficulty of finding an effective medicine as well as the myriad of side effects anti-seizure meds can cause. When the seizures continued, they eventually started meds which began a cycle of seizures increasing in both frequency and duration. In addition to meds, they put the child on the ketogenic diet. The grueling regimen did not help her seizure activity. Liz was desperate after even the rescue med Diastat began to fail to control the seizures.

Liz got her daughter into the Epidiolex study at Mass General and her daughter’s seizures diminished for a few months, but they returned. When the seizures started again, doctors increased her pharmaceuticals which restarted the med, seizure pattern. Liz grew frustrated with the medical establishment who seemed determined to throw prescription after prescription at them at great financial, physical and emotional cost. She found a neuro-epileptologist who helped her begin weaning her daughter from some of the prescription meds and helped her transition to Charlotte’s Web.

Liz connected with Mike Robinson online and Mike and others in the Compassionate Cannabis world assisted Liz in finding a balanced cannabinoid medicine that worked for her daughter. Mike and Liz discuss Epidiolex and the pharmaceutical interactions which do not seem to be compensated for when using that med. Liver issues can be serious when Epidiolex or any type of CBD is combined with certain medications. Mike shares, “Even though we were using the Charlotte’s Web, Charlotte’s Web wasn’t enough to help us get off. We needed something stronger. We needed the Rick Simpson oil or full extract cannabis oil to get her off. Because we only had you know, once you get down to the minuscule doses of the pharmaceuticals, now you’re really up against you know, fighting seizures, because you go with a really slow business and that’s pretty much where we’ve stepped in, you know, it’s right with the actual compassion provision.”

Both Mike and Liz believe vaccine injury is real. We ask you to keep an open mind while listening. Before you form an opinion, walk a mile with Liz and Mike, hear their stories and then decide. Liz comments, “and then people say, vaccines don’t cause autism? Yes, they do, and here’s why. When the brain heats up and you get a fever, you’ve got brain on fire” and she believes that “brain on fire” condition causes both seizures and autism.

TSC Talks is presenting this narrative and these views do not necessarily represent the views of TSC Talks. We are encouraging you as listeners, to “walk a mile” in Liz’s shoes and understand the vast variability in the human genome which calls for a far more personalized approach to medicine than is currently the status quo.

Liz’s Links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_on_Fire
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-minda-98b9b1126/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011148612874
https://www.mikesmedicines.com/medical-marijuana/liz-minda-and-her-fight-for-jadyn-cannabis-for-epilepsy/
https://herb.co/news/health/rhode-island-cbd-school-minda/
https://digboston.com/medical-cannabis-special-treating-yourself/
https://www.wpri.com/news/special-reports/family-fights-to-change-law-says-medical-cannabis-should-be-administered-in-school/

Mike’s Links:
https://mikesmedicines.com
https://globalcannabinoidrc.com/
https://carouselchallenge.com
https://genevievesdream.com
https://nanobles.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-robinson-~-cannabis-heals-256b3192/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MikesEpilepsy
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cannabismymedicine/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MikeRob47354384, https://twitter.com/MikeRob23307223
https://hightimes.com/culture/genevieves-journey-how-cannabis-helped-save-life-create-family/
https://www.imedpub.com/proceedings/cbn-the-cancer-fighting-cannabinoid-5528.html

Thank you Liz and Mike for this valuable discussion.  You can find all of our podcasts at https://tsctalks.com/podcast/

 

TSC Talks Guest Liz Minda & Mike Robinson Pt 1

TSC Talks guest Liz Minda and Mike Robinson Part 1

In this episode of TSC Talks, I spoke to Liz Minda, RN and Mike Robinson, former TSC Talks guest, drops in for the second half of our conversation. Liz has three children, one of whom has significant special needs and issues related to epileptic seizures. Liz strongly believes her daughter’s issues are pharma injuries and we discuss that and the treatment protocol. Liz had her children later in life; her son was born when she was 48 and her twin daughters were born when she was 50. She had normal uneventful pregnancies and her children were all born healthy. All was well until, at 18 months old, one of her daughters developed a fever after her MMR/DPT vaccine. That was when she had her first seizure.

Liz’s daughter had no further seizures until she was 4. When the seizures came back, they were severe grand mal status epilepticus seizures. Liz hesitated to medicate her daughter because as an RN, she was aware of the difficulty of finding an effective medicine as well as the myriad of side effects anti-seizure meds can cause. When the seizures continued, they eventually started meds which began a cycle of seizures increasing in both frequency and duration. In addition to meds, they put the child on the ketogenic diet. The grueling regimen did not help her seizure activity. Liz was desperate after even the rescue med Diastat began to fail to control the seizures.

Liz got her daughter into the Epidiolex study at Mass General and her daughter’s seizures diminished for a few months, but they returned. When the seizures started again, doctors increased her pharmaceuticals which restarted the med, seizure pattern. Liz grew frustrated with the medical establishment who seemed determined to throw prescription after prescription at them at great financial, physical and emotional cost. She found a neuro-epileptologist who helped her begin weaning her daughter from some of the prescription meds and helped her transition to Charlotte’s Web.

Liz connected with Mike Robinson online and Mike and others in the Compassionate Cannabis world assisted Liz in finding a balanced cannabinoid medicine that worked for her daughter. Mike and Liz discuss Epidiolex and the pharmaceutical interactions which do not seem to be compensated for when using that med. Liver issues can be serious when Epidiolex or any type of CBD is combined with certain medications. Mike shares, “Even though we were using the Charlotte’s Web, Charlotte’s Web wasn’t enough to help us get off. We needed something stronger. We needed the Rick Simpson oil or full extract cannabis oil to get her off. Because we only had you know, once you get down to the minuscule doses of the pharmaceuticals, now you’re really up against you know, fighting seizures, because you go with a really slow business and that’s pretty much where we’ve stepped in, you know, it’s right with the actual compassion provision.”

Both Mike and Liz believe vaccine injury is real. We ask you to keep an open mind while listening. Before you form an opinion, walk a mile with Liz and Mike, hear their stories and then decide. Liz comments, “and then people say, vaccines don’t cause autism? Yes, they do, and here’s why. When the brain heats up and you get a fever, you’ve got brain on fire” and she believes that “brain on fire” condition causes both seizures and autism.

TSC Talks is presenting this narrative and these views do not necessarily represent the views of TSC Talks. We are encouraging you as listeners, to “walk a mile” in Liz’s shoes and understand the vast variability in the human genome which calls for a far more personalized approach to medicine than is currently the status quo.

Liz’s Links:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_on_Fire
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liz-minda-98b9b1126/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100011148612874
https://www.mikesmedicines.com/medical-marijuana/liz-minda-and-her-fight-for-jadyn-cannabis-for-epilepsy/
https://herb.co/news/health/rhode-island-cbd-school-minda/
https://digboston.com/medical-cannabis-special-treating-yourself/
https://www.wpri.com/news/special-reports/family-fights-to-change-law-says-medical-cannabis-should-be-administered-in-school/

Mike’s Links:
https://mikesmedicines.com
https://globalcannabinoidrc.com/
https://carouselchallenge.com
https://genevievesdream.com
https://nanobles.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-robinson-~-cannabis-heals-256b3192/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MikesEpilepsy
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cannabismymedicine/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/MikeRob47354384, https://twitter.com/MikeRob23307223
https://hightimes.com/culture/genevieves-journey-how-cannabis-helped-save-life-create-family/
https://www.imedpub.com/proceedings/cbn-the-cancer-fighting-cannabinoid-5528.html

Thank you Liz and Mike for this valuable discussion.  You can find all of our podcasts at https://tsctalks.com/podcast/

 

TSC Talks guest Liz Minda

TSC Talks Guest Tyrone Williams

What’s relatable about this TSC Talks podcast guest, Tyrone Williams is how despite multiple and frequently tragic occurrences throughout his life, he finds a way to take the high road and choose not to stay stuck in unhealthy circumstances and a mindset of a passive victim. Tyrone is a “Proud Father👣 Direct From Source Supplier🌿License THC and Hemp Product Acquisition and Quality Control Specialist🤔Problem Solver”, He speaks out about the inequities in the industry, highlights multiple examples and is determined not to let any of these hurdles keep him from creating a legacy for his son of a life lived with integrity, respect for history and love. Buckle up.

TSC Talks guest Tyrone Williams is a Proud Father👣 Direct From Source Supplier🌿Licensed THC and Hemp Product Acquisition and Quality Control Specialist🤔Problem Solver. This is his story of life in the fast lane in the early days of the cannabis industry in Southern California. Tyrone grew up with a father involved in some of the riskier smuggling operations in the industry, his uncle being killed by the cartel and his mother as a beacon of safety and strength.

In this episode, Tyrone walks us through the timeline of his life, detailing one challenge after tragedy after another. He is passionate about the potential of cannabis to revolutionize the world, has deep knowledge of multiple aspects of the cannabis industry, and speaks with passion and purpose about the lack of equity in the industry, as well as the need to respect the living history of those that have sacrificed, lost and suffered defending their right to use the plant over the years. He makes note repeatedly that it’s not the cannabis business of today, where we take for granted the reduced stigma and ease of access, but the gritty illegal side of the business, that of Netflix docudramas, in which his father and other relatives were immersed when he was born. Despite the high stakes danger and tragic outcomes of these illegal operations, they laid the groundwork for the movement toward marijuana legalization and reform that exists today.

Tyrone’s early years were defined by excitement, tragedy, and turmoil; “One of my first memories is sitting in a pile of money and throwing it up and throwing up in the air like Richie Rich. When I was three years old, we dropped my uncle off at the airport and he was shot down by the Mexican military on his way back. on his way back. He was a very, very good pilot and
It was a C130 plane so there’s no way that it would have just fallen out of the sky”

Despite this tragedy and others, Tyrone mentions his mother and grandmother as positive influences, “Yeah, I didn’t have any guidance. I didn’t have anyone to look to except for my grandmother on my mom’s side. You know she and my mom gave me my work ethic and my ability to love. I will always love them for that because, you know, for my first five years, I had nothing but love and even though there were these events. They weren’t tragic to me, because I was so young. And my mom was still, you know, she was running around with me in a carrier, and she was a thrift store shopper. She didn’t care about money”

He expresses his deep desire to be there for his son, “the second half of my life is going to be where I put my legacy together for my son. He’s getting four As and 2 Bs. He just got his report card. He’s doing so good in school, he’s loving it. He’s got, friends. I mean, he’s happy and he really loves that we have a good relationship. We talk all the time. And you know, we do stuff. It’s something that I didn’t have whatsoever, so I know exactly what to give him. Yesterday I got an argument with my dad. And I actually thanked him for being you tell me exactly what not to do”

In describing how he was able to learn from all the trauma, fighting and things he saw going on, “I don’t believe in arguments because all it does is piss both parties off. But I do believe in communication and discussion. Yeah, we can agree to disagree, but lets at least listen both over each other sides and not try to make either of us feel like we’re inferior to the other. Because there’s that starts to occur, then people close down and nothing’s heard whatsoever. ” Amen Tyrone.

Relating his frustrations with the influx of people into the industry with “certificates and resumes” and bypassing those who have deep lived experience in the industry, real-time. Those who are passed over frequently when in many cases they are far more knowledgeable and educated than those who merely sat in a classroom and were taught about the plant, “I mean, these companies come in and I was brokering trim and there was a couple of companies that came into California and bought all the trim up and now it’s $2 higher than what it was before. And they just priced me out of everything. And then if you want to get any type of position with any of these companies they want you to have some resume that shows that you went to some stupid school to get some freakin ‘certificate that shows that you can do something.”

One of his ongoing concerns with the industry, “So that’s another problem with this influx of new money into the industry is that people are so greedy that they’ll do anything, they don’t care about trying to follow the rules, there’s no etiquette whatsoever anymore.”

Tyrone goes on to mention, how he cannot believe what he’s lived through stating, “Yeah, this is all true, real firsthand experience, not just something that I heard about from somebody else, the third person, this and that. So, yeah, and that’s why when I read back thru it, I’m like, I don’t even believe it.”

And in conclusion, I’ll leave you with this quote that gives evidence to the reason Tyrone has survived lived experiences beyond belief and has been able to rise above overwhelming circumstances to come on this podcast and talk to us today. Thanks, Tyrone for your honest, painful, inspiring glimpse of another side of the industry that many don’t understand.

“I don’t believe in arguments because all it does is both parties off. But I do believe in communication and discussion. Yeah, we can agree to disagree, but lets at least listen over each other sides and not try to make either of us feel like we’re inferior to the other. Because when that starts to occur, then people close down and nothing’s heard whatsoever. They’re just thinking about what they’re gonna say”. Truth.

From LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyrone-sky-williams-5b4b45195/
“I’m a second-generation grower with 20 years in indoor hydroponic space design and quality control. Specializing in licensed farm direct THC products of the highest quality. The products personally rigorously tested and vetted from only the best quality. I have designed products that have proven positive results that I will be introducing to the market if anyone is interested in an investment opportunity.”

TSC Talks Guest Tyrone Williams

https://tsctalks.com