Giving Thanks for My Specials – Thanksgiving Day 1993 Nina Patry~Guest Blogger

The following blog was written in 1993 by my new and good friend, Nina Patry. Nina hails from Rutland Vermont. Her claim to fame is that she is a certified Paradox Process instructor. We met last year while I was getting called up on a Lorie Ladd live event and not able to get my equipment to work to … Continue reading “Giving Thanks for My Specials – Thanksgiving Day 1993 Nina Patry~Guest Blogger”

The following blog was written in 1993 by my new and good friend, Nina Patry. Nina hails from Rutland Vermont. Her claim to fame is that she is a certified Paradox Process instructor. We met last year while I was getting called up on a Lorie Ladd live event and not able to get my equipment to work to connect. Nina was cheering me on and we ended up chatting on FB and pretty soon we both realized we had connections to special needs individuals. Me, as a parent, and she as a sister and aunt. We’ve been friends ever since, in fact, to learn more about Nina, listen to the podcast I did with her. (link) During a recent conversation, we were discussing some of our experiences of the extraordinary abilities of our loved ones with special needs to be far more energetically tuned in than most ever imagine and what a gift, it was to have these “seers” in our lives. Then she read me the following bit of prose she’d written, which I immediately knew I had to share. I left the language as written. While harsh to read, it speaks somewhat to a bit of evolution of consciousness, that must continue in an accelerated manner related to all things we now define as “special needs”. Thanks, Nina for this precise and moving piece.

I went to Church this morning.  First time in a long time.  In Charlottesville, Virginia, where a large portion of our family has gathered for Thanksgiving.  And I found myself particularly thankful for the special people in my life.

I sat in the front row, surrounded by my brother and my nieces –  all “special needs” people. Christopher with Down Syndrome, thirty-two years young; Maggie and Emma are developmentally delayed, with no more specific label attached.  Maggie and Emma are identical twins, eight and a half years young.

Retarded.  Developmentally delayed.  Rather judgmental terms—or at least markings at the low end along a linear evaluation of human beings.  I prefer the Rudolf Steiner/Camp Hill movement view.  That perspective places these people, at least on the spiritual plane, as beings more closely aligned with the unseen spiritual aspects of reality.  They are seen as souls who have difficulty adapting to, accepting, relating to the advanced state of materialism much of our world reflects these days.

It is said in Camp Hill literature I have read, that these souls incarnate, but cannot enter fully into the mindsets, perceptions, and values currently dominant in “modern” or “postmodern” culture.  Instead, these folk arrive, one foot in and one foot out.  Here, but not here in the same way the rest of us are.  And in that difference, their presence is a strong conduit, one which the spiritual plane needs to help bring our world back into balance.

These folk live their lives in many senses free of the pressures, drives, greed, and fears that many of us “normals” experience.  They exist on more basic levels.  And freedom from the materialist drives seems to leave them more time and energy for the truly important aspects of life.  The unseen.  Love joy emotions happiness.  Freer to be themselves—they don’t understand so well our “civilized” codes—the dress code, the wariness and distance with “strangers” codes, codes on the “proper” ways to be in various situations.

I personally love to witness the ways in which this freedom reveals itself.  Both Chris and the twins are more overtly, actively friendly to strangers than many other people I know.  Saying hello, smiling, sometimes staring (definitely considered rude by some), but it is clearly an observation and awareness of others that many of us believe need to be kept secret for some reason.

My brother loves to attend performances of many kinds, especially musical performances.  He will encourage the performers from the audience.  Give them the thumbs-up sign or a wave.  He is often the first on his feet to give a standing ovation and likes to go up to the stage and shake hands with the performers.  (If any opportunity presents itself for him to get his hands on a microphone, so much the better!)

And last night, too, when Mom, Dad, Chris, and I arrived at the airport, Maggie and Emma’s greeting was contagious.  Flapping, smiling, almost flying around the airport in their unconfined excitement over our arrival.  For these and so many other reasons, I am eternally giving thanks for my specials.  

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Conversations with God~on Tuberous Sclerosis Complex

by Jill Woodworth Did those individuals affected by Tuberous Sclerosis Complex drop in for this very time in our collective human history? When I consider the language of the definition of Tuberous Sclerosis Complex and let myself drift into that dreamy abstract place of right-brained “thinking” and quantum insights, I imagine each soul in the … Continue reading “Conversations with God~on Tuberous Sclerosis Complex”

by Jill Woodworth

Did those individuals affected by Tuberous Sclerosis Complex drop in for this very time in our collective human history? When I consider the language of the definition of Tuberous Sclerosis Complex and let myself drift into that dreamy abstract place of right-brained “thinking” and quantum insights, I imagine each soul in the ether packing their akashic record, knowing they wanted to incarnate on the 3D earth plane for this massive collective awakening and evolution we are now experiencing. At least that’s how I choose to see it. It kinda goes like this….

A conversation in the ether…

Soul to God, or higher guide (your choice here):  How could I put all the life lessons I need, into one tight package that will not only with the unfolding most assist me in my soul’s evolution to a higher plane and contribute to the overall awakening of humanity?  

God or higher guide: Well, let’s see, you could jump down in there with a chronic illness, an addiction, or some horrible, complicated cancer, or any number of excruciating “diagnoses”….Wait. Oh, I know, here’s one…There seems to be a number of souls that incarnated more recently with this condition that (get this) causes benign tumors to grow in all the vital organs and possibly all the organs of the human body! Whoa. And those living with this condition end up experiencing all the systems of care have to offer. The good, the bad, the ugly.  The system where they end up spending the most time in the healthcare system, because, oh boy, did you hear that? “benign” tumors, which is really like just saying, let me throw a freakin wrench in it b/c there is no such thing as “benign” in their current healthcare system.  

What happens in an organ-based medical system in which each bodily organ basically has its own system within the system, and these humans are just now realizing that the systems all need to talk to each other in order to actually fix anything long-term? Utter chaos. In the form of treatments organ by organ, and added diagnoses, medications and tests and regimens, “neuropsychiatric” issues, massive behavioral challenges, and all kinds of ways of “managing” what is truly unmanageable. Because their understanding of who they are as divine beings, mind, body, and spirit, a visible reflection of the living God, is not fully understood. Yet.

So, therefore, if you choose to do so, you’ll be taking on the core consciousnesses of humility, failure, guilt, shame, anger, frustration, gratitude, forgiveness, devotion, acceptance, and any exponential fragment of any and all of these that you can imagine. And more. You’ll be stacked. It’ll be the most exciting incarnation you could ever choose! Of course- one requirement. You’ll need to pack in, this huge heart, bigger than the entire world, that all these souls seem to have. Seems to be some sort of portal to the essence of these souls’ purpose. So, overall you’re looking at a really mixed bag. If you have some karmic debt, giddy-up. Past lives haunting you? Welcome. Wanna up level in one lifetime? Welp, sign right up. You will be able to clear it all with a good incarnation or two experiencing this conundrum of a role. But what an opportunity!! Every bodily system you can imagine with a literal “wrench” in it. It will force the humans to understand the dire need for the integration of their minds, bodies, and spirit all in one fell swoop!!

You know all those systems never were created for real live people. More for ideas of people as they were, at a fixed point, about 40 or 400 years behind the rest of the world. Now it’s costing the humans dearly. None of us really are square enough to fit into their rigid round holes anymore. What’s needed is a bunch of y’all to jump on in and just be there. Just be in it, you’ll have help. What’ll happen is that big old heart that you are bringing down will force their hand. Those humans are now embedded within these systems and have lost sight of the bigger picture. The broader perspective one you see up here in the ether. The fully integrated divine human. The one that so many are becoming more aware of is possible to stand in, while they are still in a human body. You’ll be contributing to the frequency of heaven on earth, by creating awareness of the dire need for monumental changes in the way things are done down there!

In dropped the TSC affected, through our channels, and we were aptly chosen for the congruent nature of each of our core consciousnesses……some Magna Carta of soul contracts. The ripple effects of the TSC drop-in splash also contracts with many more souls who also can join in the akashic clean-up adventure of a lifetime.  Their needs are so complicated, and hard to tease out on any given day that those that are gifted with these souls’ presence in their lives, whether as their child, parent, sibling, will be in for some tough reckonings. And deep truths. They may fall deeply in love with these souls, forever transformed by the light they carry, so much so they will accept the loss of attachments to just about everything that they think ever mattered. And most will find it worth it. All will. In time.

So, if you ever question what you are doing here, please reflect on this. You matter. So much. You are here for a reason. Even if you don’t really believe this, I don’t care anymore I’m going to say it. This is a path like non-other, not better or worse but wholly unique and wholly worthwhile. Use your time here on the earth plane to keep finding the higher love, the one that resides in each of us, the one that connects us to the beautiful river of love that we are here to honor…

I’m not sure where it came from but it definitely flowed through me, this new/old soul, experiential learner, who awakened to the gift of being alive, here now, and honored to be awakening through the process of “caregiving” individuals with TSC. So much love to you, to me, to all of humanity but especially to those affected by this diagnosis. 💖

Points of Light~Kimrâh Minuty, Part Two-Healing Broken Hearts

Thank you Kimrâh for this inspiring inerview! See Part One for more

BIO~

“Welcome To Silver Lining Spirals where art is healing and healing is an art. I offer a range of services from custom digital business art creations to Ascension Coaching, Reiki energy healing,Intuitive guidance, Tarot/Oracle card readings and more

Experienced Writer with a demonstrated history of working in the retail industry. Skilled in Public Speaking, Art, Book Writing, Poetry, and Self-publishing. Strong arts and design professional with a Bachelors Degree focused in Psychology from University of Central Florida.

✨My name is Kimrâh Minuty an Intuitive Ascension Coach Reiki Master, Spiritual Consultant & Author. As an expert shadow healer, I work with coaching clients to taproot their soul by transforming their lives holistically through addressing gut, heart and mind issues that keep you from living your best life. I am the Host of a practical spirituality podcast called Gaia Soars. Check out my inspirational poetry book called “Lighten Up Phoenix, Keep Rising!” : https://amzn.to/3kWUluS ✨Thanks For Joining me Lets have Fun and Lighten up! ✨click here to Book a session: : http://kimrahminuty.com/sls_intuitive-guidance-special/ ✨New Weekly Episodes of Gaia Soars: ✨Contact and Follow me on social media : ✨ Tiktok: https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPd2gx3sV/ ✨FB: https://www.facebook.com/kminuty ✨IG: https://instagram.com/kimrahminuty?r=nametag ✨ donations and support : PayPal: https://www.paypal.me/kim1381 ✨CashApp: https://cash.app/$globalphoenixsoln

Lighten Up Phoenix, Keep Rising!: Inspirational Poetry based on The Law of Attraction

Kimrah Minuty, Part 2 Time stamps

0-1:55 The shower. Big conference with her galactic team, angelics, elementals, spirit guides, ancestors~sometimes like 60 people there, but have to get practical as a Mom

1:55 Water-discussion of, combat everything with water, grounding, presence

3:25 Now I know my purpose, right on time, only Kimrâh Minuty in US-Google her, Silver Lining Spirals

5:10 Shadow work is so important!! Listening to our guides, ego vs. higher self, no ego when channelling

7:10 most of the time in “the channel zone”, ground to start day, she can tell when she misses her practices, ground more than once if needed

9:45 Talking to mother earth

10:00 pulls a Tarot card, “Happiness” 😊, Abraham Hicks, law of attraction one of 12 universal laws. Issues with law of attraction~there’s more to it than is often discussed in the mainstream

12:00 Abraham Hicks-Kimrâh got in the hot seat, story about being on the show, leveraging the power of the universe

13:05 “my greatest gift to give is my happiness”

13:55 not feeling pain when in connection/meditation, did a lot of drugs, sensitives often end up using to mute clairvoyance

15:10 special needs kids are tapped in

16:05 teachers that learn techniques vs those with more lived experience

17:25-generational differences

18:10 Cannabis discussion, our moms, dosage, can become an oppressor, vary methodology, numbing out vs. intentional use

20:20 Spiritual awakening-dark night of the soul-subject for Kimrâh’s next class. How to navigate

21:20 Her book, how many challenges she had to bringing it forward. (see link) https://www.amazon.com.au/Lighten-Phoenix-Keep-Rising-Inspirational-ebook/dp/B07YFN481H Fibromyalgia, major pain, had car accident which was a major setback, TBI!

24:05 The book came from deep pain, Kimrâh shares pictures from book (see youtube video!)

25:15 Hard to sell her art, it’s a skill! The book is her baby, her art/poetry

26:30 Pain after accident, medical community treated poorly….another concussion, reinjured-this time medical community supportive, balancing the scales.

28:30 Recovering now, a long road back, movement challenging, not being able to go for walks, etc. Living with anger

30:10 Body coding verses general energy healing

31:00 “dude you’re awesome” we are not alone!

32:40 Reading of DARE TO DREAM, from her book! Message Kimrâh for a signed copy

34:30 Book tour was ruined by covid, no strength to fight disability decision, ended up taking a job just to fill in gaps

36:05 Silver Lining Spirals, Licensed Insurance Agent in 15 states, ACA under 65…

37:00 Started podcast in 2020 during pandemic, wasn’t freaking out like everyone, appreciated some aspects of covid w/6 ft apart, out of energetic field. Kimrâh transmutes energy, is a clear channel! Empath discussion

35:05 if you have shit boundaries, you take on everyone’s stuff

39:30 Reiki-energy healing, clears debris so you can come into focus, need maintenance

40:40 every 6 mos or so, Kimrâh calls her Reiki Master, with clear open chakras anything is possible, tough to function in 3D Muggles world

41:35 Society has become anti human, we are people, we’ve lost our humanity, industrial revolution is greatest detriment

42:40 outside in nature is where the truth is, we’ve lost the concept of cycles, cycles for everything

44:00 cut ourselves off, Seasonal Affective Disorder, we are out of the cycle. It’s ok to let stuff go, including people

45:55 Parenting-worst fear is losing a child, stages of life, we do not move with our won cycles of life, hold on too tightly. The only constant in life is change

47:45 We get attached b/c we think things are supposed to be here forever. Seize today-we hold back

49:10 tiny choices, do I say the right thing? forks in the road, on being an author, getting certificates so she could charge people $, never needed the paperwork -priceless lived knowing wisdom

50:55 Gotta do the thing to be of service

51:15 Credentials

52:15 Priestess!

53-end our discussion of using leftovers 😉

Points of Light~Cannabis & Spirituality with Sherri Tutkus, RN, BSN

I recently heard some talk in spiritual communities about cannabis, how it possibly harshes our evolution. I’ll admit, I was a little bit triggered when I first heard this. I felt for a moment that what I’d come to understand as my truth, (using cannabis as medicine and as a portal to divine connection and expansion), was under the microscope. I think there’s a lot of misunderstanding of cannabis, cannabis as medicine, cannabis as an entheogen. What I was hearing from some within the spiritual community, didn’t line up with what I had learned and experienced and it was confusing. Cannabis, in many ways, opened a portal so I could see how to save my own life.

So, I did what has become a foundational transformational process for me and I took it to the podcast to ask the burning question I had on my mind about cannabis and spirituality. I thought, “why not interview somebody that I know that has some lived experience in that area?” I reached out to my friend Sherri Tutkus, RN, BSN, Green Nurse, former podcast guest, to see if she’d have this discussion with me. And of course, she said yes. (I will continue interviewing individuals who are interested in sharing their “story” of how their lived experiences, of all shades, let them to stepping more fully into their soul’s purpose.)

From a very young age, Sherri was connected and had some experiences with the divine. What followed from my initial query is a beautiful discussion with her just blowing my mind with the things she’s experienced and where she’s gone and come back from to be a shining light and a heck of a guide for others. Through her combo of traditional medical education, deep lived experience as a patient, nurse, mother, medical cannabis patient, psychedelic explorer and guide, podcaster, businesswoman, and friend to many, her depth of insight is epic. I learned a lot and realized I had the answer within, which it always is, needing a little context and connection to spring loose. Let’s hope you can find some valuable insight as well. Let it rip!

Sherri Tutkus BSN- RN is a leading force in the burgeoning cannabis industry as a nurse, patient, advocate, and activist. All that she shares and teaches facilitates our own innate ability to step more fully into our authentic, divine selves. Sherri is the Founder of The Green Nurse and Chief Nursing Officer at Holistic Caring- a global community of health professionals who provide vetted products and services to support the utilization of plant medicine and other progressive therapies to nourish the endocannabinoid system (ECS). Sherri educates and implements holistic integrative healing modalities within her nursing practice at https://thegreennurse.com/team/sherri-tutkus/

“And through all of that my discovery was this. We have beliefs, and beliefs are fed to us from the outside. And so, we have a choice to either believe it or not believe it. Right. But does a belief make it true? That’s the question that people need to ask. So, truth…. what is truth? Truth is basically when someone has an experience, that can become their truth. All truth is truth. But all truth is not yours and mine at the same time.”

Timestamps with links:

0:00-4:00~Introduction of topic and Sherri
4-5:50~Where it all started…Church (Irish Catholic), early experiences, the angelic realm
5:50-6:49~Beliefs and truth, What is Truth? “All truth is truth but not all truth is yours and mine at the same time”
6:50-7:19~Perception, consciousness, processing
7:20-8:00~ PTSD, trauma response…what happens inside someone is how they view the outside world. Go inside to heal.
8:00-8:45~my teachers throughout the years, exploring modalities, college
8:46-9:34~Sick as a child-Rhys Syndrome, almost died, sick in 2012, almost died~found cannabis
9:35-10:24~Spiritual journey enriched by cannabis, the 2012-conventional medical system failed
10:25-11:19~Son Nicholas born dead. Had rare genetic disorder, communicated with her from birth, paranormal became normal in her home.
11:20-12:29~Spiritual experiences helped her evolve. Nicholas, saw angel, “Mike’s here, he’s a big angel and he wants to tell you that everything will be ok”~ was led into new healing modalities
12:30-12:55~All personal and professional experiences led her to where she is
12:56-13:24~Spirituality is everything! Everything we say or do affects everything else
13:25-15:14~from suffering to hope, decrease stigma, started her podcast, gained real-world experiences~H.I.G.H. reframe
15:15-15:59~Spiritual principles
16:00-18:31~Jill on spiritual community concerns with cannabis, what does consciousness really mean? Question that.
18:32-19:19~on cannabis, anatomy and physiology impacted, neuroprotectant, open neural pathways and eliminate “the box”
19:20-19:59~all here to walk each other home!
20:00-21:00~Cannabis is Ppleotropic-multisystem…all physiological systems at the same time from within. Endocannabinoid system
21:01-22:40~Mother anti-cannabis-Sherri interviewed a nun, Sister Suzanne who was on a ton of fentanyl and got off using cannabinoid medicine (22:25-what would Jesus say? Jesus would say God is in that plant)
22:41-24:37~Nursing, spirituality, cannabis nursing~caring for the entire human experience, connecting with patients, no judgment, hold sacred space
24:38-26:42~ Jean Watson’s theory on human caring is pretty much pairs up really nicely with how we take care of patients https://nurseslabs.com/jean-watsons-philosophy-theory-transpersonal-caring/ , Carey Clark,PhD https://www.amazon.com/Cannabis-Carey-Clark-PhD-AHN-BC/dp/1975144260 A nurse IS her office. Holding space and meeting the patient where they are at
26:43-27:43~ Sherri’s practices, other plant medicine, plant entheogens, psychedelic medicine, Psychedelic nurse with Keta, MD~https://ketamd.com/certified to do home therapy, Shamanic journeys support exploration
27:44~Danielle Simone Brand’s book “Weed Mom” https://www.daniellesimonebrand.com/
28:43~Healy, frequency healing https://healanalyzer.com/
28:51-29:59~Psychedelics, understanding complex PTSD…getting triggered (everything that hurt you comes back), break the unconscious cycle, deepest work with Shamans
30:00-30:35~Psychedelic journeys, how can I heal myself so I can show another?
30:36-31:29~Holistic Caring, Psychedelic Nursing https://holisticcaring.com/
31:30-32:34~Psilocybin and Vets, Psychedelic Nursing, grow your own mushrooms
32:35-33:18~Psychedelics, legality~Ketamine is legal
33:19-34:16-Processing emotion, feelings are meant to be felt
34:17-35:48~Green Nurse Retreats for Energized Living with Denise Costello Cannabis retreats, immersive weekends, also will include psychedelic retreats-microdosing and hero’s journey. in the near future https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTu44Wq2NSo
35:49-38:00~Using Cannabis for “spirituality”…pay attention, gratitude, intention, what do you have to show me? Peace Begins with Me, pausing and listening. Nurse Carey Lee and Sherri…https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZE7uyiaiBU
38:01-39:59~What happens if you get TOO high? Too much THC-CBD! Lemons, shower
40:00-41:24~Sherri shares a funny personal experience when making edibles
41:25-43:06~Holistic Caring and The Green Nurse information, programs for those in the industry, energy healing, nonprofit…sponsorship goes back into nonprofit, vetting products, dispensaries that want a nursing line
43:06-45:14~Community, the importance of… free supportive community off social media at https://holisticcaring.com
45:15-end Thriving vs. Surviving

Thanks, Sherri!!

Nina Patry~Points of Light, From Primal Scream Therapy to Paradox Process-The Journey Home

“here’s my mother picturing me living in the woods with an outhouse, etc, etc. And she had said to me, how can you be living such a Hard life. So one day I’m out there kicking the ice out of the buckets, thinking hard life. Wait a minute, when my mother was my age, she had five kids, the hardest thing I have to do is kick the frozen ice out of their buckets on these, you know, under zero-degree morning. That’s the hardest thing that I do. What is she talking about? What is she talking about? Again, it’s this whole relative reality, you know, the people look, five, just like me looking from the outside saying, I could never do that.”

Links:

Paradox Process: https://www.paradoxprocess.org/

Ziva Meditation: https://zivameditation.com/

Thomas Jones on Luke Storey Podcast: https://youtu.be/cB5OT3vtpP8

A demo of Paradox Process with Thomas Jones and Emily Fletcher: https://youtu.be/vkXdaGmKTtQ

I can only say I’ve had one of the best times of my life getting to know Nina Patry. For all the negativity around Facebook, that’s where I met her. In a forum for Lorie Ladd, during the COVID madness. Our paths were destined to cross. Our connection and experience together, over the last 6 months, was enough to make me want to podcast again. You’ll hear the description of how I thought we met and then Nina’s description of how we met, which was far more accurate. Funny.  What I want to note is how important it has been for Nina to solidify her inner voice and deep knowing, her authentic self, despite the external reality into which she was born is one in which often didn’t make sense in a way that allowed her to feel loved and at home with her own awesomeness and value.

Born the oldest of 7, to a world-renowned, MD working in the field of Pharmacology~ in NYC, busy parents, whose hands were full, she internalized the message to stay out of the way and not draw attention to herself. did not follow any preconceived or single life path, like me, she’s been an avid student of life. Each experience led her further into asking the question, “Is this really all there is?”. From her earliest memories to today, she weaves a beautiful narrative based upon the inner and outer experience of each memory she shares.  She states, “If I’d have had to plan a life for myself to get me to where I am today, I could not have planned it any better!”

 I am honored to get the chance to ask her questions and discuss pretty much freestyle, her navigation across the time-space continuum, the adventures she’s had along the way, what was gleaned, what was stored and how each experience held a gift, like a scavenger hunt, leading her along the path of further stepping into her soul’s purpose. There’s so much within the episode, and I’ve noted the timestamps that I thought jumped out, below. Please also note the very important links Nina asked me to share on Emily Fletcher and Ziva Meditation as well as on Thomas Jones and The Paradox Process.

“here’s my mother picturing me living in the woods with an outhouse, etc, etc. And she had said to me, how can you be living such a Hard life. So one day I’m out there kicking the ice out of the buckets, thinking hard life. Wait a minute, when my mother was my age, she had five kids, the hardest thing I have to do is kick the frozen ice out of their buckets on these, you know, under zero-degree morning. That’s the hardest thing that I do. What is she talking about? What is she talking about? Again, it’s this whole relative reality, you know, the people look, five, just like me looking from the outside saying, I could never do that.”

6:22-Story of her birth

8:19-Moving around quite a bit, lessons of relative reality

10:30-Germany. Going to Germany as an exchange student-meeting Mormons

15:25-Nina’s boyfriend meets up with her dad at John’s Hopkins-dad did not face things emotionally

16:55 -What attracted her to Mormonism-the gestalt…what life was about, father in heaven, etc

18:55-Dad came home with a cat-couldn’t believe he had given her something so wonderful!

21:00-Always had knowings

22:01-Dream about the cat on the payphone

24:04-What am I getting out of this life if I’m the creator?

25:22-Living in East Village (NYC) during a tumultuous time

30:20-Drawn to the book, “The Primal Scream” without seeing the title. She thought it odd her father would have such a book

33:06-Being in a cult, what she got out of it, “life can be different” theme

34:12-Moving to Vermont, 1981

34:44-Living in the woods in Norwich VT area, no indoor plumbing, thought “they were crazy” at first but then she was in it

35:22-these experiences where she’d observe a situation and say to herself, “I could never do that” and then would be in the situation

36:30-Realization again of relative reality. Mother telling her she has a “hard life” living in the woods, when her mother had already had 5 children at her age

38:20-meeting husband Jim Patry, May 1, 1989 at 5pm

39:50-“Oh that Nina, she doesn’t appreciate our family” (yes she does)…

41:47- Tapping, one of the most effective methods she’s found

41:25-Looking for answers-always wanting to be healthy, looking at health, what did that mean… Healing modalities, “never met a healing modality she didn’t like”….

42:22-March 2020-Awareness of COVID from people at work (Vermont Country Store)-was not afraid at all

43:45-Nina dips back into some of her psychological histories, having diagnoses, bi-polar, being put on medications

44:20-Found meditation via Emily Fletcher of Ziva Meditation and decided she’d rather be “meditated, not medicated”

44:51-Coming off psych meds the right way after discovering Peter Breggin, M.D’s work

46:46-Meeting Thomas Jones, co-creator of The Paradox Process

49:02-Nina’s definition of Paradox Process

50:36-The Paradox Process sends you inside for answers

53:45 Lorie Ladd and The Paradox Process-never happier!!

54:38-From Primal Scream Therapy to Paradox Process

55:34-There are a lot of performers that utilize The Paradox Process, they use their bodies as instruments that need tuning

56:00-Is this a cult? Initial questioning of The Paradox Process after her cult experience

58:25-Concluding discussion-Rutland MA/Rutland VT-Rutland Pharmacy

60:00 The Paradox Process, detailed information